Curse

Ulterion · Nov 24, 2007, 02:21 AM // 02:21

Duper = Duplicator. Duplication of items devalues the rest of the communities efforts in working for the same goal. (i.e. farming all them gemstones extensively, only to find out that other players out there have managed to cheat/duplicate their way to hundreds of that same one item that you've been farming for forever and a day). The sad part is that there are still people roaming around with that quantity of armbraces and similarly high-priced items. There's no way in HELL that any 1 individual (even with multiple, multiple accounts) can EVER achieve such a high quantity of armbraces. So sad how one person works so hard for an armbrace while the other just laughs his way maliciously and exploits the gaming system for an exponential quantity of that same armbrace that takes all too much time to acquire.

I MP I · Nov 24, 2007, 02:46 AM // 02:46

No Anet might not care since they're preoccupied with GW2. I don't really care either. Personally, it doesn't affect my game in the least bit. When you have it all, you really can't manage to care about what everyone else is doing.

byteme! · Nov 24, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Why do people care so much about these things in the first place? Are there not more important things in life to worry about? Or perhaps some people really don't have anything else important in their life. o_O? If people showed this much passion in real life this world would be a better place but unfortunately some of you spend your passion online via video games.

@OP You've power traded your way to a huge amount of wealth already. I'm certain you can buy 99% of everything GW has to offer. Why does it then bother you that others have more cash flow then you albeit legit or not? Let it go. You have everything you need. You are a winner. Game is over. If it's just a matter of principal then take it elsewhere. You're fighting a meaningless battle. Do some volunteer work. Donate to charity. Help the homeless. There are far greater causes to be concerned about then "ectos" and "ambraces". Does your mother/wife/girl friend know what you're up to?

I just don't see the point in this. Who are we pretending to be? Heroes? Crusaders? If you want to fight the good fight GW is nowhere near it. It's a virtual video game. It's FAKE. This hardly effects anyone because most people don't actually know duping has ever happened. I can guarantee 95% give or take that are playing in-game right this very second don't give a hoot. All those threads that have been up about this topic are from the people who for some odd reason actually do care and needless to say it's not a very big crowd. I can do a head count if you want. Give it a week or 2 and this thread will be buried and no one will care of it ever again.

Chthon · Nov 24, 2007, 03:35 AM // 03:35

The results of a poll are a poor way of determining an objective fact. Either there are undetected dupers, or there are not -- whether we think they exist or not has no impact on whether or not they actually do exist.

As for myself, I don't have sufficient knowledge to say one way or the other whether there's dupers out there right now or not.

Onarik Amrak · Nov 24, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

This is a joke poll/thread right?

Does anet care about duppers ingame any more?

How do we, the players, answer that? We don't work for Anet.

Tarkin · Nov 24, 2007, 03:44 AM // 03:44

If ppls still Duping i dont kwon...

But everyday i see more pandas in towns... twice at same city sometimes...

holababe · Nov 24, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Malice Black

This would screw over as many people as deleting them.

It would not.
Armbraces are for crafting weapons. If you want to use them to trade with then you're filthy rich already.

Aera Lure · Nov 24, 2007, 03:48 AM // 03:48

The poll options I find a little odd. I think its obvious Anet cares about the duping issue. To think otherwise is folly.

Now do they have enough manpower to catch everything? Were they able to wipe it out permanently or has it come back in an adjusted form? Duping when it pops up in other online games, in my experience, seems never to fully go away. Once an exploit method is found, its then constant cat and mouse back and forth as one side tries to get around the other etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case with Guild Wars, its just given past experience I suspect there is still some duping going on. Pure speculation on my part.

There are, of course, some extremely rich players in the game that dont cheat, and imho I think its all too obvious Anet cares, so I had to vote "Yes" in the poll. Doesnt really answer the OP's post though since I also do agree it likely duping continues, if only on some smaller more discreet scale.

Tarkin · Nov 24, 2007, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by Chris Blackstar

The only way to stop this inflation is not to practice it. Everyone should stop offing 100K+XX ectos for items, just offer a price between 1 and 100K for items, and shun players who offer otherwise by not trading with them.

Only few stuff is 100k + xx this days...

Some few rare pets and some few rare weapows...

TheLordOfBlah · Nov 24, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

The people whining about the dupers are more annoying than the dupers themselves.

QFT

Just because there was one incident with people duplicating items, does not mean that every rich person is a duper. Some people play this game A LOT. Some people farm Underworld whenever we have favor, they know how to trade their good items, and they CAN make stacks of ectos in a matter of months.

Tarkin · Nov 24, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

The poll options I find a little odd. I think its obvious Anet cares about the duping issue. To think otherwise is folly.

Now do they have enough manpower to catch everything? Were they able to wipe it out permanently or has it come back in an adjusted form? Duping when it pops up in other online games, in my experience, seems never to fully go away. Once an exploit method is found, its then constant cat and mouse back and forth as one side tries to get around the other etc. Not saying that is necessarily the case with Guild Wars, its just given past experience I suspect there is still some duping going on. Pure speculation on my part.

There are, of course, some extremely rich players in the game that dont cheat, and imho I think its all too obvious Anet cares, so I had to vote "Yes" in the poll. Doesnt really answer the OP's post though since I also do agree it likely duping continues, if only on some smaller more discreet scale.

Agree... we are? 200 000? 300 000? active ppls? against 1? 3? 5? anet members... this unfair... 250 000... trying new farm ways... trying new dupe ways... new scans... lol... i say track pandas... track panda logs...

Tarkin · Nov 24, 2007, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

The people whining about the dupers are more annoying than the dupers themselves.

Dumpers make things cheaper... and its good... if you understand me... more rare mini pets... more rare weapows...

But my whining about the dupers is... i dont want my account ban because i buy a dumped iten...

bilateralrope · Nov 24, 2007, 04:01 AM // 04:01

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Originally Posted by max gladius

I am totally fed up with the fact that Duppers are still ingame....

What proof do you have that the duping is going on ?

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how is it possible for someone to go from less then 1 stack of ecto to over 30 stacks in the mater of months...

How do you know they only took months ?
And how do you know they weren't simply power trading ?

6am3 Fana71c · Nov 24, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

This thread is pointless. And I don't see why anyone would care if anything is still duped in Guild Wars. The only people who might care is over-passionate collectors of rare items who fear their uber elite items will be less rare, or they won't be able to buy yet another 100K + xxx ecto item. Less QQ more pew pew.

crazy diamond · Nov 24, 2007, 04:10 AM // 04:10

I love how so many people seem to know without a doubt that duping most certainly is going on.

Crom The Pale · Nov 24, 2007, 04:13 AM // 04:13

Those that found the orriginal dupe were not fools. There is a good chance that they moved items through several accounts and Anet cant possibly spend the time to review every trade that took place between the day duping started and when they stopped it.

That being said its only a very minimal impact on the game, these dupers are not hording items that ever other player wants and cant have. They purchase a few high end items that most people would never get anyway and the rest they sell to make gold which they probably sell on Ebay.

What has been done can not be undone, you cant unfire the gun.

Reason · Nov 24, 2007, 04:19 AM // 04:19

These threads are getting out of hand, A-Net has already said that when they see a trade go down that is huge they look at it, I am sure that is they saw 30 Arbraces they would look into it. We all know that the r9 Eternal Blade is the latest example that everyone is QQ'ing about dupers over, the fact is when something is made that public A-Net will look into it and ban the proper people. Yeah, they almost certainly had to eBay to get that kinda fortune on top of farming/power selling 24/7. In the end you just need to trust A-Net to get rid of all these people and to continue to work at it. Yeah I know that no one can trust A-Net because they nerfed your 1337 farm and won't balance PvP and sometimes you DC from the game and it is always there server's, but just drop this duping topic already.

crazy diamond · Nov 24, 2007, 04:22 AM // 04:22

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Originally Posted by Reason

These threads are getting out of hand, A-Net has already said that when they see a trade go down that is huge they look at it, I am sure that is they saw 30 Arbraces they would look into it.

I didn't know ANet had people round the clock monitoring every single trade.

Reason · Nov 24, 2007, 04:24 AM // 04:24

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Originally Posted by crazy diamond

I didn't know ANet had people round the clock monitoring every single trade.

I am sure they don't, hence why they have said they look back at LOGS, even if there was someone looking at it around the clock they could not monitor ever trade in game.

byteme! · Nov 24, 2007, 04:39 AM // 04:39

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Originally Posted by 6am3 Fana71c

This thread is pointless. And I don't see why anyone would care if anything is still duped in Guild Wars. The only people who might care is over-passionate collectors of rare items who fear their uber elite items will be less rare, or they won't be able to buy yet another 100K + xxx ecto item. Less QQ more pew pew.

I agree. Pew pew pew